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Post by Cammie Moonites on Apr 3, 2008 14:09:51 GMT -10
Oh, sorry for the double post, but
Was that the SEASON FINALE? anyone know?
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Post by Laci Caine on Apr 3, 2008 14:11:50 GMT -10
No, it was not the season finale. There's still a few more episodes yet to air.
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Post by Laci Caine on Apr 3, 2008 14:18:03 GMT -10
I'll be honest, and I stated it before, I didnt like them, I think these episodes had SO much potential, and they failed miserably. The writers, shoulda had H arrested in Rio and had his but kicked, and like, stuff like that, treat him like they would REALLY treat him, not be like "Oh, I'm done with you, take this gun and try to escape." I didnt like that he didnt get hit by ONE bullet either, that ticked me off, He's not been seriously wounded, and like his CSI's have been aubducted, killed, shot, and he's been harmless. I think its getting rediculous, and that he should atleast be shot or something sooner or later, and the whole thing with Julia? I think that he should be the one to off her. That would be hawt. Because I know now he doesnt love her, after she betrayed him with Rio. But anyways, The acting was AWESOME as always, the storyline sucked butt. Five thumbs up for acting. No thumbs up for storyline. They failed miserably, with something so great, and it ticks me off. I don't think they 'failed miserably'. I for one would not want to see Horatio hurt. These episodes were AWESOME. They're going back to their season 1-3 roots I think. And I do believe the writers actually did their homework for these eps over the break because of the strike. As we got to see Horatio in a lab coat again, and I do hope that they continue to have him working in the lab. That was great. As for Julia, he DOESN'T love her. That has been stated before. He hates her, and not just because of the Rio thing. I agree that it was a waste of very pretty scenery. However, I think it was Rick who did not allow him to be arrested 'formally'. When he got to Rio, the chief let him go I think because he did not really care that Riaz was dead. And figured that Horatio would not make it out of Brazil alive. The Mala Noche wanted their revenge. That's all that was. I don't think that Horatio has to be 'seriously wounded' at all. Because it really would ruin a good thing and who wants that? I certainly don't.
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Post by ehmalo01 on Apr 3, 2008 15:33:59 GMT -10
As far as Rio being a waste of very pretty scenery...They didn't film in Rio this time. Both scenes (with the police chief and with the Mala Noche) were shot in LA. The scene with the chief on the Balcony overlooking the city was filmed with a green screen. The aerial shots were Rio, but those could have been filmed at any time. So, therefore, I can understand why they didn't show more of it. There was nothing really to show.
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Post by Laci Caine on Apr 3, 2008 17:35:51 GMT -10
As far as Rio being a waste of very pretty scenery...They didn't film in Rio this time. Both scenes (with the police chief and with the Mala Noche) were shot in LA. The scene with the chief on the Balcony overlooking the city was filmed with a green screen. The aerial shots were Rio, but those could have been filmed at any time. So, therefore, I can understand why they didn't show more of it. There was nothing really to show. em Em, I realized that after the episode aired. But I still think that they could have done a little bit more with it. Weather it was filmed in LA or not. The scene itself felt kind of rushed. However, I'm talking more of the ending to 'Ambush', not the beginning of 'All in.' I loved how they did the beginning of that episode. But... I still loved the episode. ;D
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Post by sanne on Apr 3, 2008 19:28:38 GMT -10
Emily and Sundancer....great to see that conversation going about the gun-thing.....I loved it. THAT's why I love this place so much. these kind of conversation.....which gives us some extra info from the "real experts". And the "H is magical WITH a gun"....great......I'll keep that one in mind........ @cassity: if you have so much negative feelings about the show/H currently, why do you still watch? ? Hoping they will get H hurt? I don't think so! So you can vent all your negative feelings out here? I don't HOPE so! Sandra
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Post by Laci Caine on Apr 3, 2008 20:04:00 GMT -10
Emily and Sundancer....great to see that conversation going about the gun-thing.....I loved it. THAT's why I love this place so much. these kind of conversation.....which gives us some extra info from the "real experts". And the "H is magical WITH a gun"....great......I'll keep that one in mind........ Sandra Agreed. ;D I loved the posts about the guns. That was very interesting! And that's one of the reasons why I prefer this board is because of the conversation. I know I lurk more then I post, but I'm working on that.
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Post by sundancer on Apr 3, 2008 20:57:17 GMT -10
Emily and Sundancer....great to see that conversation going about the gun-thing.....I loved it. THAT's why I love this place so much. these kind of conversation.....which gives us some extra info from the "real experts". And the "H is magical WITH a gun"....great......I'll keep that one in mind........ Sandra Agreed. ;D I loved the posts about the guns. That was very interesting! And that's one of the reasons why I prefer this board is because of the conversation. I know I lurk more then I post, but I'm working on that. *flushes* Hm well, thanks! I must concede that the first statement with the gun hooked me. I couldn't resist and post... ;D ;D @cassity: I think most of the cases they show in these eps are brutal enough without the hero getting hurt. And Horatio suffers more emotionally than any other on this show. In fact, to my opinion a bullet couldn't create more destruction. To talk with the others: this show is FICTION with quite a good load of realism, good actors and a brilliant leading actor and I think that's why most of us are addicts of CSIM.
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Post by Cammie Moonites on Apr 3, 2008 23:33:03 GMT -10
But..but...BUT!
I just think that if they want it to be like real life, Horatio should atleast be getting minorly wounded somewhat...
Its not negitive, its just, I think the last few seasons the show has fallen a bit.
Season four was like, awesome, and then five, kinda went down hill, and then six, well six, the writers almost are still on strike.
I just, I think the writing is getting poorer and poorer as the story of him and Julia and, Kyle, who he could have gotten out of jail, if he could get that guys third strike taken away, BUT.
Anyways, I just think, that, they're losing the 'realisim' of the mental processes of the characters, and injury wise.
Horatio hasnt been wounded,
HE isnt immortal, and it annoys me. thats all.
Lets see, Season Four showed us the whole eric thing with him being shot and what not, and like...well I think it was season four.
Anyways, And H didnt get a minor graze? There where bullets flying right at them.
And then the episode this week, Those guys, common sense here, would have shot him, and he wouldnt have been able to stop them that fast, because they would have been shooting as they walked up to him.
So, I think, and I'm not really trying to be negitive about it, I'm showing a different side to the "oh my god it was so great" factor.
I dont honestly think the episodes have been that great the last few weeks.
I do love the Horatio, Kyle thing, but still, -H could have gotten him out of jail.-
Oh and another point to that.
Since when does Horatio have powers to get someone's third strike revoked? He's just a Lieutenant for the Crime Lab, that aint the way it works where I live.
So, I just, think that the show is just, losing its....edge?
And I know the show is fiction, but they try to create a real life like atmostphere, and they're failing..sadly.
But I still love the show dont get me wrong, its just its been annoying me lately.
Now, I'll shuddap, and stop with my two cents, because my hands hurt, so I'll talk to you all later.
~x Lieutenant Cassity x~
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Post by Laci Caine on Apr 3, 2008 23:55:07 GMT -10
But..but...BUT! I just think that if they want it to be like real life, Horatio should atleast be getting minorly wounded somewhat... Its not negitive, its just, I think the last few seasons the show has fallen a bit. Season four was like, awesome, and then five, kinda went down hill, and then six, well six, the writers almost are still on strike. That is the thing. It is NOT real life. This is fiction. Yes, the CSI part of it is REAL. The only difference in that is the time frame that it takes to process things. As for him getting wounded, he has. Once in Losing Face and again in Body Count. That's really all the hurt he needs. I beg to differ on season 4 however. It wasn't awesome to me. Well, the first half was and some of the episodes from the last half. Season 5 was awesome. And... the writer's are not on strike. Realism of the mental processes of the characters? They're perfectly fine. I see nothing wrong at all with any of the character's at all. Again, Horatio HAS been wounded. He's immortal for me. ;D I think you're meaning season 5. Not in season 5, no. Seasons 1 and 2, yes. I've already stated this twice. Its a kill or be killed situation. As a cop, you're TRAINED to act on impulse and keep acting on it. Otherwise you'll end up dead. That's common sense. And what he did was what I would have done and anyone else in danger of losing their lives. Actually, if you have fast reflexes you could. If you know what you're doing. It all comes back to 'perfect' aim. I thought they were the best this season, actually. Its all in who you know. I'm sure it happens where you live, you just don't know about it. I don't think so. I like it just the way it is. Albeit, I do have a couple of problems with it but I am sure the problems that I have will be gone quickly enough.
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Post by Cammie Moonites on Apr 4, 2008 0:13:28 GMT -10
Wow, way to totally rip me apart....x.x The whole thing about the cops and implulses thing, Like.... I know, I'm good friends with a cop. But still! LETS BE REAL HERE. He would a been seriously wounded or dead, because those jackasses wouldnt have cared for his life, they woulda been shooting the whole way up to him. I think that what my problem is, is that i try to put the real world into fiction all the time, thinking, "That would have never happened..." and stuff, But still, I stick with my opinion, the last few seasons are losing thier edge.
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Post by Laci Caine on Apr 4, 2008 0:25:29 GMT -10
Wow, way to totally rip me apart....x.x I just know my stuff. Its why I'm in college. I'm friends with several cops, doesn't change the fact of what I was getting at. Not all the time. Sometimes you get those idiots that don't know if they want to shoot you or not... and this could have been one of those situations. Plus, Horatio was surrounded by a lot of trees with places to hide. How were they to know if he was truely alone? And if I remember rightly, they aimed first which gave him enough incentive to fire. All because he knew his life was in danger had he not done so. And this is all because Horatio hasn't been seriously wounded? He's not going to be.
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Post by sanne on Apr 4, 2008 0:40:13 GMT -10
Laci Caine, I think you've done a great overview here and I agree with you. Couldn't have said/done it better (mostly because My English vocabulaire isn't large enough, but still ;D). Admire your courage to keep trying to talk any sense into Cassity, but I'm afraid it won't work out. @cassity, you sound very violent, not only now, I've noticed that before as well. Where other fans would never want the hero to get hurt whatsoever, you are only rambling on about him getting hurt and shot and wounded and so on. I don't know where that comes from, but if you think of CSI Miami as a real-life-show (or want it to be), I think you're in serious need of help..... Sandra
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Post by sundancer on Apr 4, 2008 1:08:15 GMT -10
First I thought I should keep myself out of this discussion, because I thought I've already said enough myself and everything addable came from Laci and Sanne. But...
@cassity: please, ask your friend how often even trained officers fail when shooting under stress-situations! Ask your friend even on what distances they fail their aims! I can tell you by heart: even in a distance between 5 to 7 meters (don't know it in yards) they FAIL! They even don't manage to hit the door of a barn! As said: we're talking about trained persons. Now: the average criminal knows how to handle his gun, to shoot and sometimes he's well-trained like an AVERAGE police-officer. So a very good trained shooter (like DC portraits Horatio Caine) will be more effective than a common criminal. And that's what happened here. So the discussed situation may be a bit farer from reality than usual, but it's still in the realms of possibility. And as I said before: the "bullet-proof"-attitude we'd several times before. So, what are your really complaining about? (and this question is only hypothetical)
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Post by Cammie Moonites on Apr 4, 2008 13:25:08 GMT -10
I'm violent?
I think its sexy to see blood on my hero. Geez. I aint violent I just... like the blood shed...that aint screwed up.
I think its sexy.
because he is fictional.
I think its cool to see my heros bleed? Is there a problem with that because like...I know alot of people who like to see much worse of thier favorite characters.
So, I think that its totally okay.
But like, I'm nota voiolent person, actually I'm sorta,the oppisite.
Bloodshed and stuff doesnt bother me and I think thats part of it.
So yeah.
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