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Post by margaret1234 on Mar 13, 2007 13:18:42 GMT -10
Krystal, thank you very much...at least if you as an expert couldn't do it I don't feel so bad at my lack of success....Margaret
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Post by Horatio Caine on Mar 13, 2007 22:57:45 GMT -10
Yep, I'm with you, Manon. Perhaps DC would never have had the chance to develop himself to the guy he's today, if he'd not left NYPD. Ohohohoh, a lot of totally boring evenings arise in my mind, if I think about CSI Miami without my favorite red-head. Yeah absolutely, wouldn't miss it for the world ;D Manon
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Post by KRoseLynn on Mar 16, 2007 20:39:39 GMT -10
Margaret, I think I figured it out.... I'll just create a new thread and put it up, giving you full credit of course! ;D
Krystal
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Post by margaret1234 on Mar 17, 2007 5:49:15 GMT -10
Krystal, I have replied on the new thread. Many, many thanks again.
Margaret
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Post by Carol on Mar 17, 2007 18:28:06 GMT -10
I have a book titled True Blue: The Real Stories Behind NYPD Blue written by David Milch and Det. Bill Clark, both of NYPD Blue fame. If you want the lowdown from someone else's perspective, this will provide that. My conclusion? During contract discussions after that first year, there was more than one ego present in the negotiating process. DC was simply out of his league. Don't read the book if you only want to know David's side of the story. Ohiogranny Someone else's perspective, maybe. But I'm not so sure they were being completely honest without turning little things into a a major issue. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that David handled the entire situation the best way he could have but I don't think they're showing a very professional side to their part in the mess either. I didn't hold a lot of respect for the fact that David kept quiet in the press as far as his side of the story at that time, but yet they wrote a book and took shots at him about it. It's just my opinion but I doubt that any of us really know what all really happened and what didn't. Whatever it all really happened was over a long time ago and should be done with. C
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Post by Carol on Mar 17, 2007 18:38:39 GMT -10
Now, don't throw any rotten tomatoes at me or anything, but.... Maybe it's a good thing people keep bringing it up. I'm afraid I can't agree with you on this. No one deserves to have a mistake they made thrown at them forever. It's not like he killed or maimed someone. It was nothing more than a career decision - his career, whether it was a bad decision or not, it was nothing more than that. And he still deserves some credit for the fantastic work he did do on that show when he was on it but you rarely hear anything about that, mostly it's just criticism for the way he left. Unfortunately that's the kind of stuff the media feeds on so I'm pretty sure nothing's going to change about it. C
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Post by KRoseLynn on Mar 18, 2007 10:20:02 GMT -10
Oh, I'm sorry Carol. I didn't mean to imply that people should keep bringing it up to HIM~and keep reminding him about it. Not at all. I'd never wish that for him! Besides, he doesn't need reminding of it. I know that. I know that all too well. I just feel that his story can possibly benifit others. It's benifitted me. Even though, as you say, I proably don't know the whole story. I know what I see today in David, and I like it. I also recognize he is who he is today because of the choices and decisions he's made in the past. We all are. Edit: This was very hard for me to type all this out. I hope no one thinks any less of me because of it. Also, I'm not trying to say everyone should think the same way I do either. I respect everyones indivuality. I just wanted to clarify why I think the way I do about David and what he's been through, only having learned about it after the fact. End edit. To hopefully clarify why I look at this the way I do, I'll give you an example. Me. When I was 19 or so, I stole a rather large sum of money from my sister, who had gone to England to take a few college classes and travel. I blew all the money on garbage stuff. When she, with the help of my Dad, found out the check (it was her last paycheck plus commission from the job she had quit) had been cashed, Dad sat us down (meaning my two brothers and I) and asked if any of us knew anything about it. Of course we ALL said no. Well, Dad decided to call his lawyer, the amount was close to $1,000, to see what his options were. The lawyer was gonna do what lawyers do. The results were, arrest, prossacution and jail time. Well, for next 24 or so hours I thought about it till I got physically sick and throwing up. I'm not kidding. I finanlly couldn't stand it anymore so I confessed to Dad. It was the hardest thing I ever had to do. Dad actually cried, my mom just left the room and went somewhere, and I was told later that Mark and Jim cried, too. Karie was just furious! Who could blame her? I had hurt everyone in my family. The most important people in my life. It was a decision I made and the consequences were awful. It took many years and hard work and an "I knew I did something wrong and I'm gonna fix it no matter what it takes or how long it takes!" attitude to keep me going. NO ONE TRUSTED ME for a long time after that. But if I forget what I did and the miserable place I was in because of it, what's to stop me from doing it agian? I've never so much as "accedently" taken a pen home from work much less stolen anything since. As a matter of fact, when I worked for Popeye's this last year, the manager kept telling me how impressed she was that my cash drawer was almost always spot on. No overages or shortages hardly at all. And when there were discrepinsies they were small amounts. There is nothing, and I mean NOTHING, that will make me steal money again or anyting else that isn't mine. Because I remember what the consequences were like and how misserable I was. And I don't need to be "reminded" of it by those who know about it either. I take pride in the fact. Working my butt off to gain the trust of those I love again. Those who are important to me. Now, my people trust me, agian. Sound familiar? Made a bad decision, suffered because of it, worked hard to get back. It's the same story as David's. Only different cercumstances. Same lesson learned as well "Boy, I'm never doing THAT again!" David says his fans are important to him, and I believe that. So, I don't think HE needs reminding of the situation from the press, just like I don't need to be reminded of what I did from my family. But, I don't think he wants to forget about either, because he's smart enough to know that if he does forget, there is a chance he'll go back to that place where he doesn't want to be anymore. That place where almost no one in hollywood wanted him around or wanted him in their movies or on their tv shows. That's got to be the most awful place to be for someone who "just wants to act. I'ts all I've ever wanted to do."
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Post by HoratioCalleigh on Mar 18, 2007 11:15:44 GMT -10
*hugs Krystal* That must of took a lot of courage to post your last. To learn from one's mistakes always takes courage. It has been my experience that most people don't learn from their mistakes. This is also what I like about David Caruso. He grew as a better person because of his mistakes. We all make them, but it's wether we learn from them and grow from them that will make us better people. I would be honored to call you and David as my friends.
The Good Rebecca
PS...I clicked on your David Caruso chat room. Do I have to have a password to get to see other people chatting? Every time I log in with no password no one is ever there with me.
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Post by ohiogranny on Mar 18, 2007 12:07:36 GMT -10
This must have been very hard for you, Kroselynn. My heart goes out to you. For several years now I have been saying that a biography (Preferably and autobiography) should be written about DC and it should be aimed at the YA audience. So many young people are CSI:Miami fans and many could benefit from the story of his journey. It should not be graphic or thoroughly examined --- leave that for an adult biography, but pictures and stories from his childhood, schooling, early struggles, successes and failures, his relationship with his daughter, his hopes and dreams, his business enterprises and what he thinks about where he is today and where he wants to be 5 or more years down the road would be interesting reading right now. Young people are fickle, however, and biographies of this nature must be written while the "iron is hot" so to speak. I recall when every book I had in the school library about Nancy Kerrigan never saw time on the library shelf and a short two years after the Olympics, students were saying "Nancy who?"
The book I mentioned above (True Blue) is poorly written with a lot of grammatical errors and a decidedly slanted point of view. Carol is right, as always, these so-called authors did not bring any professionalism to the project. But bless Amy Brennenan and Gordon Clapp. Both have been very positive in their comments about David. I'd like to see Mr. Clapp show up on "Miami" as a retired NY cop. After all, when he was first introduced on the show, he said he had some property in Fla. and intended to retire there someday. Wouldn't that be a hoot?
Now while I am once more on my soapbox, let me express one more concern. I have lurked on this site since its third day in existence --- way back to the ezboard days. It has evolved so much through the years. While once focusing only on David, today we focus a lot more on ourselves. We seem to be using this board like a group therapy session. We talk less and less about CSI:M and Mr. Caruso, and more and more about ourselves. I'm the one who suggested the diet club so I'm guilty of this, too. We are using David's image for creative banners, avatars, wallpapers and such and the talent that shows along these lines just boggles my mind. But in doing so, this board has become very cluttered and more difficult to read. Pictures are now showing up in threads not designed for them and it must be a difficult task for our webmistresses to stay on top of things. New members should read the rules more thoroughly so they understand better where to post things. Obviously, by checking my postings, anyone can see how interested I still am in this board. I scan through THUDS, drool rags, gutters and LOLs looking for something of value to read and when I find it, I rejoice. My apologies to all of you who must think I'm an old "fogey" but what I have just written has been on my mind for a long time now. I will bring this to an end now with all of the respect I can muster for all of you. Thank you for your time.
Ohiogranny
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Post by iluvcsi on Mar 18, 2007 12:50:03 GMT -10
woah....this is ONE hell of a soapbox... I was thinking for a while whether I agree with you, ohiogranny or not.....I am still not entirely sure what I think......there are certain threads which are more on us than DC----agreed. But this board has versified a lot (even since I joined..and this is really not long ago)...but I think as long as we keep the topics a little in order....people who are interested in DC the actor will find what they are looking for... I think that some of the problems in discussing DC's work stem from the European/US rift....meaning that half the board is 1 or even two seasons behind the US in CSI:M....and getting the movies here in good old Europe is a major undertaking.... Anyway...I think it is good that the board is lively (even if we loose ourselves a bit ...sometimes ....) the core is still David Caruso and us being fan of his work..... just my two cents on this.. Chris PS..However, I really do appreciate that you are speaking your mind ohiogranny....we also need more of that....!putting some perspective on what is going on on this board...
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Post by Lian on Mar 18, 2007 13:29:40 GMT -10
Well to add my two cents aswell...
I also agree on the fact that some threads are more 'bout ourselves than DC...yeah that's true. But since I joined the board...these threads which are more 'bout ourselves and the fanart, wp's, pics etc. etc. has changed my life so much.
WHY??? Well I tell you.
Before I was with this board I was in a major struggle with myself, about something that happened to me as a teen, it's still affecting my life (not so much now anymore, but it did majorly) But...this struggle I have (well actually had), nobody knew about it..just me. Thanks to Flymoon at that time I got DC's fanmail adress, and I wrote David about the happening in my teens. So he's the only one besides me who knows everything about it. Since than...since I wrote that letter, I feel great...I lost a great amount of weight, I feel confident 'bout myself again, my relationship with my hubby and kids has only become stronger and this "thing" isn't bothering me so much anymore. Everyday I visit this board since I joined...to get my well needed daily shot/dose of DC...when I read about him or see pics or whatever...it just makes me feel so good...this guy has such a positive influence on me it's absolutely amazing. So the thread where we sometimes keep on rambling about ourselves is sort of a therapy for us...thanks to DC, we have the courage to tell it here on the board and it's a relief to do so...so in a way it all has to do with David.
Did it make sense?? In my head I know what I want to say, but sometimes it comes out differently because I have to translate it into english...think it went alright now.
Lian
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Post by KRoseLynn on Mar 18, 2007 14:46:29 GMT -10
You did great Lian. ;D
Krystal
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Post by sanne on Mar 18, 2007 20:43:19 GMT -10
I read these past few posts with huge admiration for all of you girls. Krystal, your story really brought tears in my eyes. I just want you to know that I joined in as a fan of DC who was looking for a place where I could find TRUE info without any gossip or garbage talk (For that matter: I still miss the website Carol closed down a few weeks ago). During the time I've been online here I really feel I made friends. And yes, over the months we opened more threads about ourselves and the things that are bothering us or things that make us happy. But hey, isn't that what friends are for too? Not only talk about and look at pics of our beloved and favorite guy, but also be here for each other whenever one of us needs it? I think it's a good thing if someone feels that "safe" in here that she (or he for the male members) is able to talk if she feels like it without being afraid she will be laughed at in the face. We all appreciate each others posts and never take it hard on one another. I don't believe there is one single member on this board that wants to hurt another member on purpose, and that is what makes this board a safe, friendly and pleasant place to be. That AND of course all the great threads and pics of David of course...... Hope I didn't make too much grammatical mistakes in my writing, this is just my humble point of view about this board and how I feel about it. Hope it did make some sense....... Love and hugs for all, Sanne
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Post by lucymalta on Mar 18, 2007 21:52:41 GMT -10
Hear, Hear!!
I came to this board because of my admiration and respect for DC - Love talking about his work, and seeing the great pics that people post *sigh*. I was feeling a bit down cause my mother in law had just died after illness and hubby was working away.....
Talking to everyone through the board has helped me to recover from that - as Sanne said - it is a safe place to talk where no-one judges anyone else - I feel that some of my best friends are now here....
I also like to think that DC himself would feel proud of being able to get a group of people together who don't know each other - and talking about what means a lot to them.. Look at his work for Best Buddies etc... Well - can't we be each other's Best Buddies.......?
Ohiogranny - you don't need to feel guilty, because I know that if I'm feeling down and need someone to talk to, my fellow DC fans will be here to help me out - and that includes you...
Lucy
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Post by Horatio Caine on Mar 18, 2007 23:39:03 GMT -10
Wow what a stories, must be really difficult to write these things and I really have to say I respect that. I feel like I can say everything here, with people that understand each other, that's why it feels like a big family, I love all of you here ;D
Hugs for everyone as well. Manon
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