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Post by helen on Mar 12, 2007 8:15:40 GMT -10
I guess we already know their side of things....I hope people forget it as soon as possible. He showed us more then once he can be in a succesful show longer then one season and that's that for me. He didn't just blamed them, he blamed himself too and explained it enough. I'm grateful for the day that TPTB had the good sence of asking David to play Horatio, and I hope he will go on doing that until the end of time.
Helen
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Post by sanne on Mar 12, 2007 8:50:13 GMT -10
helen&Helene: it's mainly in my region (zuidoost Brabant) they are talking about it. We have UPC. they want to take a few channels off (including RTL5) and have 6 other channels on again. So I still have hope they will hold on to RTL5, especially since they got so many complaints about it. As for the article: I read this one before and I think it's pretty good and positive (except the NYPD part, but I stop talking about that). Sanne
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Post by margaret1234 on Mar 12, 2007 9:24:13 GMT -10
Neteret, I am sorry I seem to have upset you. There was never any intention on my part to upset anyone. I do not know what part of the world you are from, but as David is not one of our own in the UK, any historical news will be of interest. We do not have access to as much press about David as in America. I do seem to have set the cat among the pigeons with this one. If anyone else is upset, I am very sorry..... I was thinking of posting a February 2007 article (no reference to NYPD). But, perhaps I had better not Margaret
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Post by iluvcsi on Mar 12, 2007 9:50:20 GMT -10
Don't worry Margaret, not being in the US I also enjoyed to read this.... the upsetting part for most (all) of us is the D**n NYPD issue, but that is certainly not your fault...there IS virtually no interview where this topic isn't brought up.... But as ohiogranny said,...it seems to be getting better (at least in the US) here in Germany one the last article I read dealt with...three guesses what....DC' exit from NYPD.... sigh... But anyway...WE as fans we know that there is so much more to David than that one mistake he might have made (or not...who knows) early in his career. Perhaps this brought out the subtle differences he portrays in his later characters....or in H....who knows.... I mean aren't we the sum of our past deeds and experiences, the good and the bad??? Wow, that was a long rant.....sorry for that... I just meant to tell you ....don't worry.... Chris
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Post by KRoseLynn on Mar 12, 2007 10:37:47 GMT -10
I liked the article. The way I look at the "NYPD Blue thing" is just being a part of him. It's part of who he is today. That's evident in how HE views the situation, how he'd do things differently. It shows he's grown as a good, kind, loving, appreciating person.
Now, don't throw any rotten tomatoes at me or anything, but.... Maybe it's a good thing people keep bringing it up. I mean, there will always be those with huge egos. But I've often thought, how many people, actors or otherwise, kept themselves in check because they know his story? I mean, think about it. So even though we (including me!) get tired of hearing about it, it could be bennifiting someone, somewhere.
At the church I attend, there was a library that hadn't been kept up with for years. Then, someone decided it was time to clean it out because "no one was getting any use out of it anymore."
I was one of the ones to volunteer to help clean it up. Among the things I kept from the library was a box full of old editions of "The Upper Room" and "Guideposts." I have to tell you that some of those old old stories in those magazines inspired me when I read them. So, even though those articles and life stories didn't touch me when they were written or when they actually happened, they are touching me now. Many of them, I'm sure, are long dead by now, but their story still exists for a reason. Those magazines just waited there for me, they were waiting for me to find them, all those years. I belive I have grown as a loving, caring person because of them in some small ways.
You have the choice of what to bring with you out of every thing that happens to you. Everything, good or bad. What separates the good people from the bad is what we learn and apply to our lives from that point on. That, what you take away or, rather, what you learn, is what defines who you are as a good person or a bad person.
So, maybe there is someone out there who doesn't know his story, and then they hear it, and because they hear it, change the way they see the world of people all around them. Start realizing they they are not a one man/woman show and start genuenly appreciating those around them. Just like David did.
I can honestly say that I don't know if I would've have liked him 12 years ago. But, this is what I do know, I like him NOW. And I know that who he is is a direct result of the outcomes of choices he's made in the past. Good and bad.
I didn't know his story 6 months ago. Many of you did, though, didn't you? Now, less than 6 months after becoming a fan of his, I know his story, he's talked about it in articles and has been very honest about it. Even if the truth makes him look bad.
Now, I know now WHY I like him. Because he refused to give up on himself. I believe he always knew he was a good guy inside. I also belive that certian things he says as Horatio directly reflect some of those life lessions. ".....It only matters what we know inside about ourselves." among others.
I look at him, watch him in interviews, the smiles, the laughs, and jokes and the general happiness that he seems to have and I thank God he's been so bleesed with it. I know it's largly in part due to Liza and Antonio and CSI: Miami. But I also know it's partly because of that experience. He doens't take certian things for granted anymore. He doesn't want to go back to that miserable place, and he's doing everything he can to avoid it.
Am I making any sense at all?
I like the last line of the article. It made me smile. [Anthony] Zuiker said reassuringly: "I wouldn't trade [David] for any actor on the planet."
Neither would I.
Krystal
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Post by ohiogranny on Mar 12, 2007 11:39:34 GMT -10
Nicely said, Krystal. So glad you found those old Guideposts inspiring. It's my understanding from another CSI sight, that Gary Sinese has an article coming out in a new Guidepost issue.
There is a line in Kiss of Death that has been attributed to DC as well as his character Jimmy Kilmartin because it is where we first heard it: "What doesn't kill you makes you strong." We hear that all the time now but I believe he said it first. The NYPD Blue fiasco didn't kill Mr. Caruso; it made him stronger.
Ohiogranny
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Post by margaret1234 on Mar 12, 2007 13:08:27 GMT -10
Chris, Ohiogranny and Krystal, you all have a way of putting things into perspective. I am glad I caught up with your comments before I go to bed...I must admit I was feeling pretty low about 2 hours ago and wasn't going to come back to the board tonight. But, I have just watched an episode of guess what ....it certainly was not CSI Miami. I thank you for taking such time and trouble in posting your messages. In fact, I thank everyone who has responded, this certainly caused some debate. Krystal, I also liked that last line very much, that summed it all up perfectly. I think, I might dare and post the other article I have now. I promise there is no reference to NYPD and there is a lovely little picture of David. Margaret
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Post by KRoseLynn on Mar 12, 2007 13:22:25 GMT -10
Ohiogranny, I have that issue of Guideposts sitting right here in front of my screen. It's a nice picture of Gary. And he wrote the article himself!! It's a good one!
I'll scan it for you Ohiogranny, and when it's done, I'll pm it to anyone who asks me. (Since it's not about David.)
And Margaret, I look forward to that other article.
Krystal
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Post by margaret1234 on Mar 12, 2007 14:22:20 GMT -10
Krystal, sorry I cannot get the other article to post.I am really annoyed now, I have just spent ages and ages trying to get it to work. When I found the article a little while ago I posted it to my favorites and it is still safely there for me to read. But, when I tried to give the link in my message it brought the web site up okay, but with no article. After several attempts I realised you had to click on a box at the top of the web page for articles and it gave me a completely different article dated 12 March for someone else. Then I thought perhaps I could copy to pictures and then to photobucket. But photobucket didn' t like ...message given no URL. Even if it had worked, not sure I could have posted an article to the board via photobucket anyway. But, I could have sent to you personally. Oh! well can't say I didn't try. Disappointed though, it is a nice little article.......Margaret
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Post by KRoseLynn on Mar 12, 2007 16:34:03 GMT -10
Ok, send me the url address and I'll see if I can't get it posted here.
Krystal
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Post by Horatio Caine on Mar 12, 2007 23:55:48 GMT -10
We can also say, that if DC didn't leave NYPD Blue, some people would never know who he was, because Miami would have been out of the picture So I'm glad ;D Manon
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Post by sundancer on Mar 13, 2007 0:23:07 GMT -10
Yep, I'm with you, Manon. Perhaps DC would never have had the chance to develop himself to the guy he's today, if he'd not left NYPD. Ohohohoh, a lot of totally boring evenings arise in my mind, if I think about CSI Miami without my favorite red-head.
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Post by Neteret on Mar 13, 2007 6:35:47 GMT -10
Neteret, I am sorry I seem to have upset you. There was never any intention on my part to upset anyone. I do not know what part of the world you are from, but as David is not one of our own in the UK, any historical news will be of interest. We do not have access to as much press about David as in America. I do seem to have set the cat among the pigeons with this one. If anyone else is upset, I am very sorry..... I was thinking of posting a February 2007 article (no reference to NYPD). But, perhaps I had better not Margaret Oh, Margaret, sweetheart, I wasn't upset. I was, perhaps, acting as an 'old hand at the hitching post' with a 'been there, done that, next!' attitude that isn't necessary. Just so much is made of what he admits, to this day, as a stupid mistake (leaving NYPD Blue in mid-season) and the reasons for dredging it up, fifteen years after the fact, is beyond me. Perhaps I was looking for an explanation for the rehash.
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Post by margaret1234 on Mar 13, 2007 10:14:51 GMT -10
Neteret, I am so pleased you are not upset. I became a fan of David late in his career so anything I read about him now is of interest. Unfortunately, the media thrive on rehashing his problems. I don't like it either....I just disregard references to NYPD days, and move on to the relevant part of any article......But, that is perhaps easy for me to do, as I knew nothing of his problems until recently, and I can just accept it as media nonsense. But, you know he is so popular now world wide that he can stick his nose up at them all.
Enjoy the rest of your day. Margaret
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Post by KRoseLynn on Mar 13, 2007 10:46:12 GMT -10
Margaret, that link didn't work for me no matter what I tried.
I even went to the actual web site home page and searched "David Caruso" and all it brought up were video's and blogs (and biography, of course).
I'm sorry.
Krystal
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