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Post by KRoseLynn on Aug 26, 2007 6:42:39 GMT -10
Well, I'm not too happy about the nit-picking about hummers, shades and suits..... But, this is a good read. Gives a little bit of information on real forensics. Herald-Dispach.com |
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Post by tanyadell on Aug 26, 2007 7:10:30 GMT -10
wow I'd have to say she sounded a tad bit b****y ......... I know they can't get results that fast and maybe they don't drive hummers or wear expensive clothes to work but it's hollywood and thats what we all really want to see at night to relax in front of the tube! a hot sexy man making you feel safe in your own home even if it is a script! will watch it 4-ever! thanks for the read ..K..
tanyadell ;D
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Post by margaret1234 on Aug 26, 2007 7:47:36 GMT -10
Amen tanyadell.  Margaret |
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Post by sanne on Aug 26, 2007 7:56:49 GMT -10
Thnx for the read.........and Margaret said it all...... Sandra  |
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Post by hypergolic on Aug 26, 2007 8:28:41 GMT -10
Amen - tanyadell! Thanks for posting that Kroselynn - it's interesting. I've read a lot about the CSI effect in various books - it must be quite frustrating for the real CSIs out there, I think a lot of people don't realise that the reality of a CSI's job is nowhere near as glamorous as on tv and that scrabbling around in blood, guts and gore is not in the slightest bit nice. But at the same time I get a little irritated at the nitpickers who start having a go at the shows for being inaccurate for timescales etc - this is Hollywood, it's not real life - I can't imagine the series being particularly gripping if they actually had to wait for a fortnight for a basic trace analysis or DNA report. It's a crime drama, not a documentary after all *shrug*. I'd always wondered if some of the DNA profiles and fingerprints they used on the show were from real people. That would be so cool to watch an episode and say that's my DNA or my fingerprint they're looking at. But like the article says: "if anyone has the right to nit-pick the stuff that's not so accurate, it's Roby." I've got a lot of respect for the people that do that job for real. So I'll let her off, just this once though. Amy  Although I wish she hadn't said that her entire outfit cost about as much as his underwear - guess where my mind is now firmly stuck ! darn it, I have an essay to write and my brain is in the gutter - sob. |
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Post by KRoseLynn on Aug 26, 2007 9:38:06 GMT -10
And if it was closer to reality, criminals would watch it for pointers. They would learn how to commit the perfect crime if it was 100% accurate.
Is that a good traid off? Having a tv show about forensics that is 100%(or close to it) accurate and having people use the information to commit murders and rapes all over the world and never get caught because they know how forensics works or would you like the forensics teams to still have the upperhand in catching them.
I think it's good that it's not 100% correct all the time.
And, if the show is sending a false reality to people who have decided to go into forensic science and then are disalusioned, I say good. Forensics is not for everyone. Let's let the ones who really want to do it because they want to, not because they want to drive around in Hummers all day.
Besides, it's a television show, they only have 47 minutes (or whatever the count is) to tell a story and they have to take liberties. Otherwise, the show would still be working on cases they started back in the first season. That would get a bit old.
To me, all the nit-picking is just....well, nitpicking. I watch the show for the entertainment value, story lines, and character development....not because I want to learn all the ins and outs of forensic science. That's just the backdrop.
When I think about it, the forensics is kinda just the backdrop, it's the stories set in a crime lab and inside solving the crimes. In the end, the bad guy always gets what he or she desearves, getting caught. That's what I like to see, the bad guy (male or female) getting nailed to the wall by they good guys.
Besides, not that it's pertanant, but I get enough science at work. Medical science, granted, but almost the same thing.
Didn't mean for that to be so long......
I must admit it was a very informative article though.
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Post by margaret1234 on Aug 26, 2007 10:40:20 GMT -10
Krystal, you put a lot of thought into to that summary of your feelings, very well said. I think we all think along similar lines but, you seem have covered it for all of us.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us on this topic..........as you say it was an imformative article....but, I think that we all seem to be in tune with our thinking on what we actually enjoy watching......and we don't always want reality. If we wanted reality we would watch a documentary.We sometimes need part fantasy to get away from some of our troubles.........and what better than watching a certain David Caruso playing Horatio Caine. Horatio makes us all feel there is a guardian angel out there somewhere watching over all of us............Now, I have gone all soppy on you all........Margaret
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Post by ohiogranny on Aug 26, 2007 10:54:47 GMT -10
Drat, just had my message finished and it disappeared before my very eyes. Nothing to do but try again. I really like it when an article generates this kind of conversation. What fun we are having today.
Of course Roby would select Horatio for her "unrealistic" approach. Gil looks like he buys his clothes at JC Penny's Outlet Mall and Mac, who looks nicely tailored I must say (forgive me), looks like his clothes comes from a mid to upscale men's store in NY. But only Horatio wears Prada and Armani. This led me on a fun adventure. I just spent about an hour dressing Horatio for work. Here are my results:
Black undershirt from Armani $118.00
Black briefs with red piping 101.00
Armani socks 34.00
Prada ankle boots 645.00
Silhouette shades 280.00
Black/gray striped shirt (Armani) 275.00
Black business suit by Armani 1,000.00
Total: $2,453.00
I did not include the watch because there are a few of you on this site who are very "into" his watches. So what do you say? Is Horatio a bargain hunter? Does he get these clothes on sale (all my prices are retail)? How much would it cost you to dress him? Thanks Krystal for posting this. I had fun.
Karen
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Post by hypergolic on Aug 26, 2007 11:31:06 GMT -10
Margaret I agree - Kroselynn you summed up really well. "And if it was closer to reality, criminals would watch it for pointers. They would learn how to commit the perfect crime if it was 100% accurate." I remember somewhere the writers or directors or someone talking about how they were filming the dispo day episode and they had to show how a car was hotwired using a screwdriver, but not actually show how to do it - they said that would be irresponsible, which is true. "I watch the show for the entertainment value, story lines, and character development....not because I want to learn all the ins and outs of forensic science. That's just the backdrop. " Exactly (and I couldn't agree more) - You wouldn't expect to watch an episode of House MD or ER and suddenly be able to go out and perform open heart surgery or a tracheotomy. Although I have to admit watching the show (and writing fanfic) has made me go out and read a few journals so that I can describe a couple of procedures - but that's just the geek in me showing through.  Karen - I love that you totted up how much H's look costs - bloomin' heck - I never knew clothes could actually cost that much!I think it might kill me to spend that much on an outfit! and to think I nearly cried when I had to spend £100 on an evening dress for my uni leavers ball. big hug to all. Amy |
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Post by KRoseLynn on Aug 26, 2007 12:10:19 GMT -10
OhioGranny,
That was very cool that you did that for us! It's very informative.
Didn't David say once "I wish I dressed as well as Horatio does!"
So, he's admitting the fact that H may be a little over dressed too, I guess.
Maybe I've misinterpreted that.
Guys, I really didn't mean to cut the conversation short. Please feel free to express your thoughts even if they are the same as mine. Or different. ;D
I get going sometimes and just can't stop.....
I appreciate all the kind words. ;D
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Post by tanyadell on Aug 27, 2007 3:24:03 GMT -10
wow H does wear nice stuff but oohh don't we love it! ;D......... he is so.............. awesome in his threads.......woohoo! I like lively discussions! but we all agree we like hollywoods version better! life is hard enough and H is totally a hottie we can all enjoy!
tanyadell ;D
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Post by emschld on Aug 27, 2007 4:50:21 GMT -10
I like he look that Horatio portrays. Even though it is not realistic. His character isn't sappose to be real to life. The only character that is dressed correctly would be Frank Trip. His clothes look like they came off the rack at JC Penny. But I love the way his character works with Horatio. I think H must have given him a pair of us sunnies as now you see him wearing them quite often. Regina
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Post by HoratioCalleigh on Aug 27, 2007 9:34:24 GMT -10
I can understand the frustration the CSI professional express due to the "Hollywoodness" of the CSI shows. I deal with it because I am going into the forensics field. I will say I never admit to others in the field that I watch the shows because I need to protray that I am in the forensics field serisously not because I watch CSI. Watching CSI Miami is one of my secrets that I don't admit but at least I have outlets like this board in which I can enjoy discussing the show and David Caruso.
I watch because I enjoy them. I have always liked cop shows since I was a kid and intelligent shows really capture my attention. If I had cable I would probably be watching all those reality forenics shows. Instead I buy a lot of forensics books and enjoy it that way.
I will say not all CSI professionls hate the shows. My friend Carla, a CSI supervisor in Juarez Mexico, loves CSI Miami. We had many a conversation about the show and enjoyed talking about it. It's pretty funny to us and very entertaining.
The Good Rebecca
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Post by Ace on Sept 6, 2007 2:52:15 GMT -10
"I'd never wear a nice suit like that to a crime scene," Roby said, tugging at her own subdued garb with her hands. "This is as nice as I get, and this probably cost as much as his underwear." This was the part that cracked me up. ;D
But it was really great to read and I thought at many points, "well duh". Of course the show can't be 100% right, it would just be...well as Frank would say, they would be stuck on stupid. And of course they wear nice clothes, it's entertainment, not reality. Jeez...
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Post by Vicki Angela Shepherd Moon on Sept 7, 2007 16:27:05 GMT -10
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